Golwealkar praised Hitler in 1939 in "We and our Nationhodd Defined" for purifying the German(Aryan) race by purging the Semitic races (Jews) and counselled the "Hindus in India to imitate him" and also explained the enemies in the same order -- Jews, Communists and Franco-English alliance/ Muslims, Communists and British. Many other similarities that I will scan and post a research paper of mine on RSS and Jamat-e-Islami published in 1987. In the same book he writes that north pole was, in ancient days in Bihar and Orissa. Following him the Gujarati duffer transports Texila in Bihar and sends ahead Chandragupta Maurya to Gupta dynasty who defeated Alexander on the banks of Ganga and sends Shyama Prtasad Mukherji to heaven or he;ll to discourse with Vivekananda who had died almost a century before the communal bigopt Mukherji was born.
फिर तो आपको मोदी और गोल्वलकर की जहालत और उनके मानस पिताओं हिटलरों और मुसोलिनियों पर भी गर्व होगा, अनुराग जी, आपने कौन सा वेद पढ़ा है? आमतौर पर वेद पर गर्व करने वाले वेद पढ़े नहीं होते आपने पढ़ा है क्या? इतिहास की गाड़ी में बैक गीयर नहीं होता इतिहास के अतीत में गौरव खोजने वाले भविष्य के खिलाफ शाजिश करते हैं. हमारे अर्ध खाना-बदोश, चरवाहे पूर्वज सर्वत्र कैसे हो सकते हैं? मेरा भी शुरुआती प्रशिक्षण शाखा और परिषद कई जहालत के बौद्धिकों से ही हुआ था.
Major Retd Pravin Singh I don't avoid straight talks blogspot.com is my views from my blog. Have you conducted a refrendum among the 3500 members that you can make a sweeping remark on everyone's behalf. My ideology is humanism -- creation of a society free from exploitation and domination based on the principles of absolute equality that is a qualitative concept and not a quantitative notion. Majority does not prove anything right or wrong. I make statements substantiated by facts and logical arguments. I respect others' opinion if they are not baseless, true I reject and condemn the ideologies that are based on hatred sustained by mass murders and mass rapes. What dialogue can be conducted with people who do not address the issues raised but exhibit Janeoo and Shankh symbols of Brahmanism responsible for pushing the country and society into inertia for thousands of years enabling the invaders and colonists to plunder and dominate for centuries. Last thing, I block only those who become intolerably abusive and engaging with whom is seer waste of time. I do not use the word communism or Naxalism nor am member of any party but as soon as something pro-people and logical is said the likes of you start getting haunted by the specter of communism and Naxalism despite having read obituaries. You seem to know copmmunist ideology and can condemn on everybody's behalf without giving any reason. Please conduct a referendum before becoming the spokesperson of "we". By the way what is your ideology?
Anurag Mishra To talk logical one needs not be "intellectual" as there may be many educated duffers. वैचारिक मतभेदों पर तथ्यों-तर्कों के आधार पर एक सार्थक विमर्श हो सकता है, अंध आस्था और पूर्वाग्रहों के आधार पर नहीं. संघी विमर्श का तरीका है कि पूछो आम का दाम तो वे सेव की खेती के तरीके बताने लगते हैं.यह बात मैं अच्छा तरह इसलिए जानता हूं कि मेरा भी शुरुआती प्रशिक्षण संघी स्कूल से ही है, चाहें तो नरेंद्र गौड़, मुरली मनोहर जोशी, रामकिशोर शास्त्री या रामाधीन सिंह से पूछ सकते हैं. हिटलर के समर्थकों के साथ मतैक्य नहीं हो सकता. बौद्धिक जगतगुरु बनने के लिए तर्कों-तथ्यों के आधार पर ज्ञान की परंपरा विकसित करने की आवश्यकता है जो अंध-आस्था और मरणासन्न ब्राह्मणवादी कुतर्कों से संभव नहीं है. चंद्रगुप्त मौर्य को गुप्तवंश का शासक और तक्षिला को बिहार में बताने या विवेकानंद को श्यामाप्रसाद मुखर्जी का समकालीन बताने वाले कुज्ञान से जगतगुरु बनाने वाली ज्ञानपरंपरा स्थापित की जा सकती है क्या?
Yes, I think that for appropriate conduct of the class onus lies more on the teacher, who should never get irritated/agitated( I do get some times) on peoples' inability to unlearn and break from the tradition and unlearn the acquired moralities to replace them with rational work due to paradigmatic limitations created by ideological hegemony. Unlearning is much more difficult than learning, as traditions and conventional wisdom weighs on our heads like the corpses of dead generations, we must plead with friends and young people to unburden as soon as possible. This is a difficult task, but then everyone can do the easy ones.
I do believe in the theory of changeability that we can to by continue to impress pommel such people to act "resonantly", i.e. on application of mind that distinguishes humans from other creatures. Well one has to prioritize one's time. When I was warden of the hostel I undertook this with my hostel students. Ex warden and some other people said, "आप रगड़ रगड़ कर गधे को घोड़ा नहीं बना सकते." मैने कहा, "मेरा काम है रगड़ना, क्या पता बन ही जाये कभी."
फिर तो आपको मोदी और गोल्वलकर की जहालत और उनके मानस पिताओं हिटलरों और मुसोलिनियों पर भी गर्व होगा, अनुराग जी, आपने कौन सा वेद पढ़ा है? आमतौर पर वेद पर गर्व करने वाले वेद पढ़े नहीं होते आपने पढ़ा है क्या? इतिहास की गाड़ी में बैक गीयर नहीं होता इतिहास के अतीत में गौरव खोजने वाले भविष्य के खिलाफ शाजिश करते हैं. हमारे अर्ध खाना-बदोश, चरवाहे पूर्वज सर्वत्र कैसे हो सकते हैं? मेरा भी शुरुआती प्रशिक्षण शाखा और परिषद कई जहालत के बौद्धिकों से ही हुआ था.
Major Retd Pravin Singh I don't avoid straight talks blogspot.com is my views from my blog. Have you conducted a refrendum among the 3500 members that you can make a sweeping remark on everyone's behalf. My ideology is humanism -- creation of a society free from exploitation and domination based on the principles of absolute equality that is a qualitative concept and not a quantitative notion. Majority does not prove anything right or wrong. I make statements substantiated by facts and logical arguments. I respect others' opinion if they are not baseless, true I reject and condemn the ideologies that are based on hatred sustained by mass murders and mass rapes. What dialogue can be conducted with people who do not address the issues raised but exhibit Janeoo and Shankh symbols of Brahmanism responsible for pushing the country and society into inertia for thousands of years enabling the invaders and colonists to plunder and dominate for centuries. Last thing, I block only those who become intolerably abusive and engaging with whom is seer waste of time. I do not use the word communism or Naxalism nor am member of any party but as soon as something pro-people and logical is said the likes of you start getting haunted by the specter of communism and Naxalism despite having read obituaries. You seem to know copmmunist ideology and can condemn on everybody's behalf without giving any reason. Please conduct a referendum before becoming the spokesperson of "we". By the way what is your ideology?
Anurag Mishra To talk logical one needs not be "intellectual" as there may be many educated duffers. वैचारिक मतभेदों पर तथ्यों-तर्कों के आधार पर एक सार्थक विमर्श हो सकता है, अंध आस्था और पूर्वाग्रहों के आधार पर नहीं. संघी विमर्श का तरीका है कि पूछो आम का दाम तो वे सेव की खेती के तरीके बताने लगते हैं.यह बात मैं अच्छा तरह इसलिए जानता हूं कि मेरा भी शुरुआती प्रशिक्षण संघी स्कूल से ही है, चाहें तो नरेंद्र गौड़, मुरली मनोहर जोशी, रामकिशोर शास्त्री या रामाधीन सिंह से पूछ सकते हैं. हिटलर के समर्थकों के साथ मतैक्य नहीं हो सकता. बौद्धिक जगतगुरु बनने के लिए तर्कों-तथ्यों के आधार पर ज्ञान की परंपरा विकसित करने की आवश्यकता है जो अंध-आस्था और मरणासन्न ब्राह्मणवादी कुतर्कों से संभव नहीं है. चंद्रगुप्त मौर्य को गुप्तवंश का शासक और तक्षिला को बिहार में बताने या विवेकानंद को श्यामाप्रसाद मुखर्जी का समकालीन बताने वाले कुज्ञान से जगतगुरु बनाने वाली ज्ञानपरंपरा स्थापित की जा सकती है क्या?
Yes, I think that for appropriate conduct of the class onus lies more on the teacher, who should never get irritated/agitated( I do get some times) on peoples' inability to unlearn and break from the tradition and unlearn the acquired moralities to replace them with rational work due to paradigmatic limitations created by ideological hegemony. Unlearning is much more difficult than learning, as traditions and conventional wisdom weighs on our heads like the corpses of dead generations, we must plead with friends and young people to unburden as soon as possible. This is a difficult task, but then everyone can do the easy ones.
I do believe in the theory of changeability that we can to by continue to impress pommel such people to act "resonantly", i.e. on application of mind that distinguishes humans from other creatures. Well one has to prioritize one's time. When I was warden of the hostel I undertook this with my hostel students. Ex warden and some other people said, "आप रगड़ रगड़ कर गधे को घोड़ा नहीं बना सकते." मैने कहा, "मेरा काम है रगड़ना, क्या पता बन ही जाये कभी."
मुझे लग गया था कहीं हुई है आपकी ट्रेनिंग :)
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