Students movement in England

Same arguement is being forwarded by many supporters of fee-hike in Delhi University also that is aimed at privatisation and commercialization of Education that must be state responsibility. Their argument is give freeship or concessions to economically deprived sections, thuis opening the whole pandora of all the means to get appropriate income certificate by the rich like medical certificates to cover attendance shortage on the one hand and create 2 classes of students on the other. If you really want to tax the rich tax them at the root; bring out the black money, which according the economists working on the "black economy", constitutes more than 60% of the national wealth; stop spending crores everyday on army deputation in Kashmir and Northeast (in case of England in Iraq and Afganistan) to kill and maim people and to plunder their resourses; stop the gimmics of colnial legacies like carrying the queen's baton by spending and looting almost billions.
More over such spontaneous "uprisings" on immediate issues amomng the youth and students, generally lead to transformation of movements into movements for broader changes. Communist Party of France did not appreciate the importance of radical students' 'uprisings" of 1960s had it done so the results would have been more farreaching.
Long live the revolutionary traditions of students' radical movements and slute to agitating students.

god

@kuljinder there have been so many discourses on religion, it has been delibertely kept tough to understand, so that people dont understand and clever people takig advantage of this ignorance serve the economic and political vested interests. Had all the religions been pointing to the same thiing -- some abstract good -- , why there would have been so much bloodshed in the name of the religions and sects?
@ Hasan rashid sahab, majhab ka kabhi bhi koi constructive role nahi raha hai -- aristotolte, Kautilya, Machiavelli sabhi ne shashakon ko salah di hai ki ve dharm ka istemal rajneeti ke hathiyar ke roop me karen kyonki isase logon ko vafadar aur ekjut rakhna ashan hai, aur ishvar ka bhay raja ke bhay me tabdil ki ja sakti hai . the fear of God would transcend into the fear of the prince _machiavelli).
@ Khurshid sahab: Modern, communal brand of religiousity is not the ideology of the antiquity but a modern ideology of capitalism that wants to conspire against the present in the name of some undemaecated unknown glorious past. for example : every one had been shouting against the BJP's hiddent agenda, I was saying, hinduttva is the open agenda, hidden agenda is selling the resources of the country to national/foreign companies at throw away prices and ofcourse with huge "political" goodwill amounts.

DUTA

Ahmer bhai I totally agree with you and have similar apprehension of privatisation/marketisation of the education by academic bureacracy and malign the teaching community. In-fact I never had any second priority of job and waited till very late and accidently got one, enjoying interacting with batches of young undergraduates.
My problem is with fiefdom of the professors over jobs and paternisation of select band of students on vaious consideration by them , which directlyy-indirectly corrupts the ethics of education. With my long experience of appearing for the interviews, few as part of selection committe as Teacher-in-charge, I am tempted to say that majority of teaching jobs are given on extra-acedemic condsiderations, if one is academically competent also, that is additional qualification.Few get accidently. Sons/daughters/dogs/cats of professors get teaching jobs immediately after their MA if they are not intersted in UPSC etc, otherwise immediately after getting rejected in all the competitive exams. Many of them work to justify themselves and others take it just as a job, where as its a qualitatively different job. I have 13 years experience of appearing in interviews in Delhi university. In case of fiefdom of jobs there is only quantitative difference between rightist and leftist profesors. In fact a friend Dr. Ashokraj had planned a book in mid-eighties but probably didnt go ahead with : Delhi University Academics: The Godfathers and the bastard sons. raising this question in no way to weaken the teachers unity or to claim to be vituous but strengthening it as an exercise of self criticism.
Long live the teachers democratic unity.

arundhati

She is almost correct. Presence of Indian army in such a intense density that treats the people in Kashmir and norteast treating them with atmost contempt and bvarbaric brutality worst than the citizens of enemy country as killing civilians by army is new aspect of war initiated by the US beginning with Vietnam. Indian army has been doing ame thing with the civilian population of northeast since 1958 with AFSPA and in Kasmir where the army presence in civilian area is in more density than the US occupying forces in Afganistan and Iraq. So many cases of fake encounters of innocent people have come to light by Indian investigation agencies. Dont you remember the manipuri elderly women staging stripped demobstartion daring the army to rape them, after the rape and brutal murder of Manorma. Thousands of such heineous crimes are the pattern of army presence who are trained to kill. Sopian rape and murder, just think what you will think if the victim is your kinswoman/man? has any army man been prosecuted? thpousands of people have just "disaapeared' after being apprehended by Police/CRPF/army. Just think of those mothers who have been waiting for their Godots. Just think of the plight of tribals who are beeing perpetually subjected to uinhumant treatment , forced to flee in jungles and neibhouring states. Think of Laxman Jamida of kalinganagar who was killed by tata sponsored Police as kalinganagar peasants are democratically opposing displacement and till now more than 30 people have died and 35 are behind the bars on concocted charges. The entire area has benn blockaded. What about killings of Narayan Ptna tribal peasants leading peaceful struggles and continuous harrasment? Whats about cwardly kiling og Azad on the instance of Corporate agent, traitor Chiudambaram who was advocate of enron against Indian state?

Therfore Arundhati has been right in transcending zingoist nationalism and daring to call sapd a spad. salutes to you Arundhati. Indian state is behaving llike an expansionist state that wants to keep its civilian under eternal threat of power and oppression living under the continuous threat of sudden death. Hell with such a democracy which in subsevience to imperialist powwrs contiunuously is uprooting its peasnats and poor by armed might. Down with comprador Indian state that is acting as occupying force over its geographical areas, supposed to be its integral part. In such a situation AZADI from armed occupation is the only solution for freedom from bruatl oppression and humiliation.

nationalism1

Where have they used civilizational units? India prior to British rule was never a political unit in the sense of modern nation sate, also there has been no Indian civilization but civilizations. Both the books, I have suggested, if you have read deal with the development of Aryan tribes from the Sapt aindhav region - present staes of Sindh (Pakistan) and Punjab and Haryana, before they moved beyonbd that. Also their influence was limited to north of Vindhya region till about Budha's time, If you already know, then I dont engage into debate for debatte sake, agreeing with Chekhov that 'art for art sake ' is crime. Also, as a lifelong learner, I dont want top engage into debale with all-kanowlegeables, whose Pravachans are futilr for me. Take Care.
The debate was on a wriers's or ordinary citizens right to freedom to expression in a democracy. Some people have suggested, she shouild be killed by terrorists like Sadhvi Ritambhara; some others have suggested to publically stone her to death. This is a fascist idea, unable to fight the intellectuals on the level of ideas on the basis of facts and logical arguemeents, try the eliminate the person embodying thoise ideas. That is what happened with Scratese. Galleleo, Antoniuo Gramsci, Bhagat Singh, Che, Shankar Guha Niyogi; Chandra Shekhar... and lately Cherikuri Rajkumar (Azad). You kill the Arundhati, the spectre of her ideas woul haunt you forv generations. Anyway Police has already registerd case against her, but who stand with the people arew not afraid of Police and death.

arundhati 1

@ Akhilesh:The peole who are supporting Arundhati's right to freedom to express her opinions that bare well substantiated were also opposed to baning salman Rushdi oir Taslima.Presence of Indian Security Forces in such a high density in Lashmmier mocks at the ploymics of "kashmir is intefgral part" of India where Indian army treats the "Indian" people with barbaric brutality, Is only geography is integral part of India or its people also? Indian army in the valley is doing all that sports in kashmir what the US occuying forces are doing in Afganistan and Iraq. Why can we not have a south Asia with freeborders like Europe and the huge bdgets on army in both the countries (India and Pakistan) can be spent on pverty elvation, health and education programmes? if Kashmir isue is resolveed Indian and Pakistani governments will be deproived from their instrument of Pakistan-bashing and India-bashin. On facebook all the Pakistani frieds we interact agree with us that this ahistoric partition was engineered by coloialism with the vested poiltcal intersts as their agents. To quote Habib Jalib: "NA MERA GHAR HAI KHATRE MEN, NA TERA GHAR HAI KHATRE MEN; VATAN KO KUCHH NAHI KHATRA, NIZAM-E-JAR HAI KHATRE MEN"
"HINDUSTAN BHI MERA HAI, PAKISTAN BHI MERA HAI; DONO HI DESHON ME LEKIN AMREEKA KA DERA HAI.

arundhati 1

@ Akhilesh:The peole who are supporting Arundhati's right to freedom to express her opinions that bare well substantiated were also opposed to baning salman Rushdi oir Taslima.Presence of Indian Security Forces in such a high density in Lashmmier mocks at the ploymics of "kashmir is intefgral part" of India where Indian army treats the "Indian" people with barbaric brutality, Is only geography is integral part of India or its people also? Indian army in the valley is doing all that sports in kashmir what the US occuying forces are doing in Afganistan and Iraq. Why can we not have a south Asia with freeborders like Europe and the huge bdgets on army in both the countries (India and Pakistan) can be spent on pverty elvation, health and education programmes? if Kashmir isue is resolveed Indian and Pakistani governments will be deproived from their instrument of Pakistan-bashing and India-bashin. On facebook all the Pakistani frieds we interact agree with us that this ahistoric partition was engineered by coloialism with the vested poiltcal intersts as their agents. To quote Habib Jalib: "NA MERA GHAR HAI KHATRE MEN, NA TERA GHAR HAI KHATRE MEN; VATAN KO KUCHH NAHI KHATRA, NIZAM-E-JAR HAI KHATRE MEN"
"HINDUSTAN BHI MERA HAI, PAKISTAN BHI MERA HAI; DONO HI DESHON ME LEKIN AMREEKA KA DERA HAI.

Trial of Socrates

Ish Mishra Thanks, Ahmer sahab for beginning discussion on the crisis of democracy in its historical Context. Inn fact we are talking from the same pemises, similar concerns and social aspirations. I just wanted to point out the ironies of an exclusi...onist classical democracy based on slave labour, (the only model of a participatory democracy ) and look for the continuities of those ironies. The crisis in Athenian restored democracy arose due to fear of political insecurity in the minds of the democratic leadrs and lack of vision resulted into restricting the freedom of expression and crushing the dissent. Demogogues and "free from vision" leaders were able to paly upon the fear-cum-insecurity- psychosis of an Athens wrecked by long drawn 2 wars and internal strife. The crisis of democracy witnessed in Ethens around 300 BC had been imanently innate in modern democracies proved by legislation of "extra ordinary laws" due to exceptional situation in all the modern democracies. If Arundhati Roy or Varavara Rao talk about inhuman barbarism meted out to Kashmiri people at the hands of Indian security Forces, she becomes a traitor and large sections are demanding her prosecution under the colonial acts of sedition. On certain links peope have demanded vrious kinds of punitive actions against her to the extent of stoning her to death. One girls dared them by standing with Arundhati to riducule RSS kind of thinking she was immediately condemned as a Pakistani hacker. if you talk against Muslim obscurantism you will be leveld pro-Hindu and if I talk against Bajrangi lumpenism and RSS kind of "modern' obscrantism, will be immediately turned pro-pakistani. That is why we, folloewing Marx, call it a formal democracy with innate contradiction of praxis, in the sense that it never does, what it says and never says what it does. Utising this contradiction, we have to move on towards raising a scietific conciouness to carry on the march to the final goal of "human emancipation." Lal salam.

Socratic Trial

The Democratic Athens was a colonial power also in the same way as the process democratisation in European countries in modern days was accompanied by colonisation of non-Eurpean world. But Athenian democracy was more democratic in essence than modern democracies despite the exclusion of women, slaves and aliens as the modern democracies essentially exclude the entire working population from the decision making process in the garb of giving them periodic opportunity to choose, in Leni's words, 'which section of the ruling classes are going to oppress them for the next 5 years.

Had it been Periclean democracy, probably Socratese might not have been accused of corupting the youth and impeity. It was a restored democracy.During its long drawn war with Sparta, there was a strong pro-Sparta oligarchiacl group within Ethens that unsuccessfully tried to overthrow the democratic government in 411 BC. many of the oligarchical leaders were Socrates's pupils and were talking in the same language such as the virtue is knowledge......... The anti democratic oligarchical forces were successful in overthrowing the democracy and establishing the 'reign of 30 tyrrants' that lasted for less than a year. During tyranical rule, many Athenians left Athens and went into exile in hospitable environs. Socrates preffered to stay back and was considered by the leaders of the restored democracy, Anytus and others as pro-oligarchical, Hence the trial was basically a political tral in the same way as in modern democracies political prisoners are tried for criminal charges. In the democratic court consisting of 1000 elected judges, Socrates was convicted by a marginal majority of 501. The illogical prejudices acquired majority over the logical reason, as Socratic arguements in his defence were impeccable, in the same way as reactionary illogical prejudices get majority over logically reasonable options in modern democracies, as it is easier to arouse passion than reason. The solution is not the destruction of democracy, as Plato had vowed but to make it reasonale and more representative, eventually into the ral democracy of a classless society in which governance becomes unneessary.

Religion and Politics

All the ruling classes have alwys used religion as instrument to perpetuate theoir domination. Kautilya, Aristotle, Machiavelli... all these secualr political philosophers have advised the rulers to use religion including its suoerstitions, as an instrument for political ends as it is most effective to keep people loyal and united, But times have changed and been changing, people are becoming more and motre aware of the ruling class designs and the tactic will no more succeed for any longer.

rape in Iran

In all the bloodsheds on the earth -- the wars;racial/religious/communal pogroms; war on people as is happening in Iraq;Afganistan and "distuturbed" areas of India; the red hunts, the green hunts....... -- it is alwys proleteriat v/s proleteriat. That is why they recruit soldiers in their late teenage and indoctrinate them with duty to kill keeping them away from society............... The fascist government, "having God(s) on their side, rely on scaring people in conformity or inaction. Rape along with killing has been the chief weapon of the regomnes/groups "fighting for religious causes". Down with Iran's fascist government and down with Basijis. We, the radical intellectuals can contribute ourbit by working in the direction of changing the class in itsef into the class for itself by imbibing the class conciouness, to defeat such forces and move towards socialism. Radical intellectuals of the world unite to build. the revolutionary working class conciouness.

vishnu

sabhi dharma manyataon ki buniyad par khde hote hain aur sabki buniyaden hil rahi hain. @ dharmendra. Vishnu ka bhi koi iman-dharm nahi hota aksar to raj gharanon me hi paida hote rahe, lekin avsarvadita ke tahat jab mauka laga to hathi ya sukar yoni me janm lene chale gaye inki bhagwani itni doyam darje ki hai ki dushmano ko (vaise bechare bali ne inka to koi nukshan nahi kiya tha), chhupne ki isi aadat ke chalte khambe me chhip gaye jisase dushman par dhokhe se var kar saken. aur-to-aur sabse jyada badshaluki to inhone Gautam Budha ke sath kiya. Jab Budh ko parast nahi kar paye jinhone inke brahmanvadi karmkandi 'super structure' kjo dhwast kar diya, to inke chamche inhe budha ke sharir me ghusane me tul gaye, aaj tak koshish kar rahe hain Budh ko manane ka ki vishnu ka avtar ban jao, budh inhe laga tar dutkar rahe hain ki mujhe itni gandi gali mat do.

bihar

kaun darta hai arajakta se? absolutism ke smarthak darshnik arajkata ka dar dikha kar hi tyrrany ko bhi defend karte rahe hain. khair maine to kaha ki janta ek jantantrik vyavastha ke vikalp talash aur taiyar kar rahi hai, lad bhi rahi hai apne haq ke liye amanviya daman ke bavjood(Niyamgiri, kalinganagar, narayan patna, anti-posco; nandigram;......... Julm badhta hai to mit jata hai apne aap nahi, mitana padta hai. is jantantra me jan gayab hai sirf tantra bacha hai, janata jan samet jantantra ki khahish rakhti hai. buri hai aag pet ki, bure hain dil ke dsag ye; na mit sakenge ek din banege inqilab ye.

colonialism

Shiksha Saxena I didnt want to enter this dual but as I am working on the Culutural rvolution when all kinds of excesses are reported to have happened. I have read the Peguin book youn reffered to, many of the reported ecceses are fictional and many palc...ed out of con text. For an authentic account you should read Jean Chesneaux and George Thomson. I goot more intersted in the cultural revolution by an article written in1976 by a US professor, who had gone to China to ivestigate into human Rights violations during the cultural revolution and ended up writing a critical appreciation.His article began with, "there are no sky-scrappers and there are no slums." He was shockingly surprized not to find Policemen all around except the traffic police. when he asked his guide, active through the cultural revolution about leaving the historic monuemnt like the great wall, he was stunned by her reply that all of them were guarding it from no one. Chinese children were the healthiest children of the world. The country-side had primary health centres at evry kilometer. As far as excesses are conncerned, cultural revolution was meant at creating socialist conciousness, and people were forced to be free. Those who considering their priviledges as rights were reluctant to part with. Rousseau a 18th century vagbond philosopher write, "no one shall be allowed to disobey the general will, in other words they shall be forced to be free" as unfreedom can not be a right.See More

humanity

Friends, it is not an error that scoundrels rein but inate into the system based on the principles of profit and private property, as liberal political economist adam Smith puts it, "historical progress is inadvertent consequence of profit making activities". And profit can not be maximised by cherishing humanity and democracy but by inhumanaly plunder and exploitation; land grab and fake encounters of those who oppose. It is not coincidence that Manmohans and Chidambarams are so desperate to facilitate profit making of corporate by uprooting its own peasantry and killing the protesters in the name of devewlopment but it could not have been any other way around. Its not coincitental that they kill people in cold blood and declare it to be encounter but duality is innate in the system -- capitalism, it never says what it does and it never does what it says. Therefore if we really wish to cherish humanity and humanism we must continuously contribute our bit, in each of ours acts and words, to weaken this inhuman system and eventually to end it and create a new one where the planet earth ioozes out with humanity.

Socialism and Democracy

This mass genocide is all impeialist propaganda. Firstly Stalin and Mao can not be placed on the samw pedastal because both were confronting different situations. Genocide is Bhopal and other such mass killings, so many innocent people are being killed and raped by Indian Armed forces everyday in northeast, kashmir,Chattisgarh, Orissa; so many innocent academicians, intellectuals, writers and commoners were killed, tortured, maimed, imprisoned by US armed forces in the spat of "red scare" and 'red hunting' (green Hunt is planned on the same pattern. Millions of civilians are killed in Iraq and Afganistan by Us and NATO occupation forces, scores of Pakistanis are being killed almost everyday by US Drons in Balochistan and north west Frontier Province. These are genocides. Well some excesses were done by Stalin in the name of consolidating the gains of socialism in USSR surrounded by hostile imperialist forces. Had Stalin been visionary like Lenin many such things could have been avoided. Nothing of the sort happened in Mao's Chinma, that is happening now in liberalised China. Capitalism is world system based on domination and exploitation where as socialism is a world system based on equality and fraternity. Russian and Chines revolutions were jolts on capitalism whose history runs into 500 years and has been errected by entombing millions and has not been able to prove its superiority. History of experiments in socialism is not even 100 years, more over transition from feudalism to capitalism was transition from one class society to another clas society. Transitiuon from capitalism to socialism is qualitatively different kind of transition from a class society to a classless society, for which no time table can be fixed. Let us continue our bit in the progress of human history and in the continuing class struggle by our words and deeds.

atheism

Though the term 'secularism' was first used by George jacob Holyoake for the firsdt time in England in 185 to describe a social order separate from religion witjhout actively criticising the religious belief, but its idea as a noyion of free thought draws its roots from classical Greek and
Roman philosophers such as Marcuse Aurlius; Epicurus, Antiphone, Democritus ; Heraclitus .....; Indian Materialist traditions of Lokayat-Charvak philosophy; Kabir and the Sufi traditions; the enlightenment philosophers such as Denis Didero; Voltaire, Madison, Thomas Pain.......; freethinkers, agnostics, atheists like bertrand Riussel, Marx, Che and Bhagat Singh, Rahul Sankrityayan.........

Holyoaken, though himelf an agnostic, wrote, "secularism as an arguement is not agaist christianity but independent of it; it does not question the pretensions of religion (read christianity) but advances others". It does not say that there is "no light or guidance elsewhere" but there is one in secular truth "whose conditions and sanctions exist independently and forever. " Secular knowledge is "manifestly that kind of knowledge, which is founded in this life" , relates "to the conducts of this lifeand conduces the welfare of this life and is capable of being tested with the experience of this life." truth must be proved in practice.
In political terms secularism is a movent towars separation of religion and government.
Unfortunately in India, secular stae dowes not keep equi-distance from all the religions but promotesd the ob scurantism of all the religion.

tear off the veil

as a result of protracted women's struggles there has been great advance in the realm of Feminist assertion and scholarship, though not yet emancipation from patriarchy and changes are evolutionary and quantitative, moving in the direction of revolutionary qualitative changes. Gender is an ideology and has to be fought on that lavel too. Men realize thgis change tough with cultural shock and would not dare to try to make women prey. Khomeini prescribes a dress code to reveal minmum of the body and modern consumerism propogates the a dress style to coneal the minimum but both are driven by the same genderised, sensuous notion of female body and female sexuality. Tear off the veils and confront the consumerism innate in capitalism by joining the revolutionary, emancipaory novements world over. To fight the patriarchy one has to tear off the veil and break all the taboos and inhibitions created by patriarchy to circumscribe women's role and to control female sexuality.

Fourth International

Com Zulfi! Its dialectical law of historical progress as to 'certain stege' of the development of social production corresponds a 'certain level of conciousness' contiually being inFormation of the First International, in the aftermath of the 148 French Revolution and subsequent ascendence of Bonapartism was a great, historic event.It highlighted the need of a classless society and disinegrated under its own contradictions between Marx and the anarchists, particularly Bakunin. it did perform its historic role. The social democrates in second international could not transcend the contradiction between nationalism and imperialism and succumbed to the naist pressure during the imperialist war after its historic role of highlighting the ant-war issues and exposing the imperialist charecter of the war.And Third International degenerated into a hegemonic tool of CPSU bureacracy, more particularly in the wake and aftermath of the second world War. Neverthe less Commintern acomplished its historic task of spreading the ideology of Communism.
Now in the 'globalization' atege of finance capital which is entirely global in the sense that it is not geocentric eithe in terms of the origin or investment. With our experiences of the past 3 internationals ( the 4th founded by Trotsky failed to get wider acknowledgement), Lets us found the Fourth International that does not break untill the acomplishment of its historic role of world socialism that eventually paves the way for the withering away of the states.

I am quite optimistic about it. Lal Salam Com. tervened and coerced by ideological aooaratuses of the state, as Marx said, "the ruling class ideas are the ruling aideas also.

Spanish Cvil War (1936-39)

Spanish civil war also reminds us of Cristopher Caudwell, a live answer to the theory of dichotomy between communism and democracy. Caudwell was a communist, who had been wSpain, he put down the pen and picked up the gun to fight for democraticriting for the democratic freedom in his own country, England, and when tthe democratic freedom war under attack in another country, freedomand become a martyr.Com Caudwell ko lal salam. lal lal lal salam

bewakuf bada aadmi

जो लोग ग़म-ए दिल ko gam-e- jahan me villen kar dete hain, unke pas zero-balance ki lutf uthane ka hunar hota hai aur badappan unke pichhe bhagta hai, aur log mane na mane ve apne cko bada mante hain, ve khud itne bade hote hain ki kisi ko chhota dikhane ki koshish nahin karte, ve mant doo ki tarah bade hote hain, jo kahte hain: "khuda kabhi maf nahi karta, khuda se bhi bada hai saadat hasdan manto". 2. aise log jinke bare men ek bhutpurva communist (Soviet Union ke vikhrao ke bad bahut se communist bhutpurva ho gaye, lekin ye sajjan antaryami the aur uske kafi pahle hi bhutpurva ho gaye) ki ek achhi kavita hai, "bade log bahut bade hote hain, angreji school ke padhe hote hain. ..................." ye log kafi well-connected hote hain, inke sources satta ki tah-dar-tah hote hain, sanjay gandhi indira gandhi nkre kan men kya kahte hain inhe sunaii dete hain, ye roj bikte hain, itna bik chuke hote hain, ki samajh nahi pate ki press conference men bmw se jayen, ya .. (aur kisi mahangi car ka nam hi nahi yaad).

orakash bhai inse kahiye sponsored op-ed page articles likhen, tata-vedanta ki 5-staR "INTELLECTUAL MEETS ATTEND KAREN" SAMMAN KE RUP MEN KEEMTI TOHFE SWEKAR KAREN, SWYAM AGRAWAL YA TATA SE MILNE KA SUIABHAGYA PRAPT KAREN, DUNIYA KE BADE-SEE BADE PATRAKAR UNKO BAHUT BADA PATRAKAR MANENGE, SIRF PAHLE KISM KE SWAGHOSHIT BADE AADMI KO CHHODKAR. MARNE DO BEWAKUF KO.

Ayodhya

Issues raised by one of the judges (comments of others are just little less theological, compared to one in question), Justice(...?) Sharma in a VHP kind of tone and connotation, appear not to be legal judgement based on evidences but a theological sermon addressed to religios audience on the basis of so-called beliefs, epics and mythology. How such miseducated people become judges?? Any way the charecter of judiciary is always the same as that of the state


ruling class ideas are ruling ideas also and are echoed by ruling class professional intellectuals who have vested interests in serving the intersts of ruling classes. though the part of working people harbpour the illusion of being part of the ruling class. That is why Antonio Gramsci invokes the need of organic intellectuals.By the which intellectuals you are refering to? Those who are critical of the judgement by the theologically oriented, populoist judges, who should be ion some Ashram to deliver irrational emotive sermons instead of being in law courts. This is historical judgement in the sense as it ignores all the historical facts and delivers judgement on the basis of self-percieved popular belief? Those people who encourage relious superstitions and cash on peoples' religiosity are infact poisoning the society not those who are demanding the truth to be proved on the basis of facts and logical arguments. This judgement also legitimates the historic crime of demolishing the mosque and spreading the communsal venomn through it.

aasman men kheti

मैं किसान हूँ, आसमान मैं धान बो रहा हूँ कुछ लोग कह रहे हैं, पगले, आसमान मैं धान नहीं उगा करता, , मैं कहता हूँ पगले, अगर जमीन पर भगवान जम सकता है तो आसमान मैं धान भी जम सकता है, अब दोनों मैं से कोई एक होकर रहेगा, या तो जमीन से भगवान उखड़ेगा, या आसमान मैं धान जमेगा, रमाशंकर यादव विद्रोही,
Sudhir Raghav मान्यतावादियों के भ्रम आसानी से नहीं टूटते। शायद यह किसान ही तोड़ सकता है। सुनीता जी आपने सही वक्त पर विद्रोही जी की सही बात उठाई है।
Akbar Rizvi विशाल जी अन्यथा ना लें तो एक बात पूछना चाहता हूं भगवान का वास्तविक अर्थ क्या है। जब ज़मीन और यथार्थ से जुड़ी चीज़ को आसमानी बना देते हैं तो वो बेकार हो जाती है.., भगवान के साथ भी आप जैसे भक्तों ने ऐसा ही किया है।
i निर्मल पानेरी ‎..सुनीता जी आप ने सही वक़्त पर सही बात बोली है ....पृकृति के साथ हम खिलवाड़ तो कर ही रहे है हम इन्सान और जातियों के साथ भी खिलवाड़ करने से नहीं चुके है हर समाज और इनके बीच खाई बढ़ती जा रही है....किसान तो खुद ही मरने पर उतारू है ...वो क्या तो आसमान और क्या जमीन देखे ....उसको तो हम बेचोलिओं ने कहीं का नही रखा है ...फिर नकली का खेल भी शरू है .....हमने इस जमी को ही जमी दोज़ कर देय है ...अब भगवान भी इस पर आने से कतरा रहा है ...फिर भी सुन्दर विचार आप के इस मोके पैर आप ने विद्रोही जी के बात को रखा है सब के बीच !!!!!!!!!
Vishal Upreti ‎@akbar razvi if some1 says somthng to ur muslim god, u people ran out for kilin, if u dont know much den beter to kp mum
Jaideep Saklani Sunita sab kuch sar ke uper se nikal gaya.Kuch hamre standared ka bhi likh liya karo
Ish Mishra: bat to sidh sidhi hai agar baikunth ke log dharti par rah sakte hain to dharti ke kisonon ko baikunth men kheti karne do. kisanon ke khet tata, posco, vedanta, tedanta,...... jaise bhagwanon ke supurd idambambaram-chidambaram jaise pujari karte rhaenge to kisan bhi bhagwano ke asmanon par kabja karega.
aideep Saklani kheti ki jameen property dealeron ke hawale kheti to ab aasmaan mein hi hogi
Swamiji Chidambaranand ये ज़मीन है यहाँ सब जमता है भगवान भी पर आसमान में कुछ नहीं जमता ,आसमान में लटकने के अलाव कुछ नहीं मिलता.
Sarwang Joshi ‎"ya to zameen se bhagwaan ukhdega ya aasmaan pe dhaan jamega."
@sunita- (1)-in these given conditions,which one do u think is more practical to happen in our country at present?
(2)-u mostly stuck others views or ideas(rather i should say ne...wspaper cuttings) on ur wall. Why dont u start a conversation wid ur own openion? It'll certainly gv an innovative look to ur wall & we'll get to knw the power of ur valuable brain too.
.Swamiji Chidambaranand कुछ लोगों की मानसिकता बड़ी विचित्र होती है वे धान को छोड़कर भगवान के पीछे पड़ जाते हैं अरे भाई जिन्हें धान की चिंता है उन्हें भगवान नहीं मिलनेवाले .धान-भगवान की तुलना ही भ्रम परिचायक है .
Vikram Negi हाँ सर्वाँग की बात से मैँ भी सहमत हूँ ऐसे न्यूट्रल रहना ठीक बात नहीँ कुछ अपना ओपिनियन भी पोस्ट किया करो कभी कभी न्यूजपेपर मेँ पब्लिष्ड विचार भी ठीक हैँ और खुद भी इन्वाल्व रहा करो !
Thursday at 6:57pm · LikeUnlike.Jaideep Saklani Uttarakhandke bhagwan ko kya ho gaya Swamiji? kya dev bhoomi ke log itne papi hain?KYON tabhai macha rakhi hai bagwan ne?
Thursday at 7:01pm · LikeUnlike.Sarwang Joshi ‎@vikram- do u hv any openion on my 1st question?
Thursday at 7:39pm · LikeUnlike.Girija Pathak ये घमासान देखकर एक शेर मुझे भी याद आ गया....बहुत साल गए ज़हूर दा से सुना था.
"ग़र ख़ुदा है कही तो उसे ज़मी पे ही रहना होगा.
क्यों आसमा को सर पे उठाये हुए है लोग ..."
Thursday at 7:52pm · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading....Vikram Negi ‎@सर्वाँग

जमीन से भगवान को उखाड़ना ज्यादा व्यवहारिक है समय बदल रहा है विज्ञान भगवान को उखाड़ने मेँ लगा हुआ है हाँ हवा मेँ धान उगाने के संदर्भ मेँ कोई अनुप्रयोग नहीँ हो रहे हैँ आज देश व दुनियाँ मेँ भगवान को न मानने वालोँ की संख्या बढ़ रही है और... अगर विज्ञान निरंतर लगा रहा तो भगवान तो उखड़ ही जायेँगे

@SUNITA कविता का आशय जो मैँ समझ पाया हूँ वह यह है कि जिन्होँने खेती की भूमि पर कब्जा किया है ऐसे ज़मीँदार भगवान बन बैठे हैँ इसलिए भूमिहीन मजदूर किसान कह रहा है कि या तो ये भगवान खुद उखड़ेँगे मतलब भूमि सुधार लागू होगा या फिर हम आसमान मेँ धान बोयेँगे मतलब एक समानान्तर लड़ाई हम भी लड़ेँगे ! what do u think?See More
Thursday at 7:55pm · LikeUnlike · 2 peopleLoading....Dev Pathak waw swami ji kya baat hai
Thursday at 8:16pm · LikeUnlike.Ish Mishra ‎@swamiji chidambaranand, sare swami fraud aur prasite hote hain jo bhagwan ke nam part logon ko bhat se vanchit rahte hain, swamion ne is mulk ki aisi ki taisi kar rakha hai. ( matribhasha ke shbdon ke prayog se bachne ke liye aisi ki taisi shabd ka prayog kiya hai, baki aap khud samajhdarhain)
Thursday at 9:42pm · LikeUnlike.Deepak Tiruwa sarthak post ... sadhuwad
Thursday at 9:54pm · LikeUnlike.Manohar Chamoli भगवान-भगवान लगा रखा है. पाखंडी,मन-मस्तिस्क से कमजोर और डरे हुई लोगों के लिए होगा वो, जो भी होगा. वेसे मेरे मकान मालिक का नाम भी भगवान वर्मा है. हाँ. वो तो अच्छे आदमी हैं. मगर तुम्हारे भगवान से अब तक मेरी मुलाकात नही हुई.उसकी वकालत करने वालों.कुछ करके जाना इस दुनिया से,नही तो तुम्हारा "पुरसाने हाल" पूछने-जानने वाला न मिलेगा.
Thursday at 9:58pm · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading....Ish Mishra bhagwan ki avdharna manushya ne manushya ke cshoshan ko jayaj banane ke liye banai
Thursday at 10:00pm · LikeUnlike.Ishwer Dutt आप सबने हिद्रोपोनिक्स सुना होगा , इस तकनीक द्वारा पानी में बिना मिट्टी के पौधा उगा दिया जाता है , लेकिन, अब एक और तकनीक लगभग विकसित हो चुकि है जिसे नाम दिया गया है ऐरोपोनिक्स , इस तकनीक द्वारा पौधा हवा में विकसित होगा बिना पानी व मिट्टी के और इस तकनीक की खोज करने वाले हमारे एक गढ़वाली भाई हैं जो स्पेस स्टेशन में सब्जियाँ उगाने के सपने को लगभग अंजाम दे चुके हैं । तो अब धन हवा में भी उगेगा ।
Thursday at 10:02pm · LikeUnlike.Ishwer Dutt क्षमा करें , धान अब हवा में उगेगा ।
Thursday at 10:03pm · LikeUnlike.Ish Mishra main aap se bilkul sahmat hun.
Thursday at 10:05pm · LikeUnlike.Ishwer Dutt आप सबने हिद्रोपोनिक्स सुना होगा , इस तकनीक द्वारा पानी में बिना मिट्टी के पौधा उगा दिया जाता है , लेकिन, अब एक और तकनीक लगभग विकसित हो चुकि है जिसे नाम दिया गया है ऐरोपोनिक्स , इस तकनीक द्वारा पौधा हवा में विकसित होगा बिना पानी व मिट्टी के और इस तकनीक की खोज करने वाले हमारे एक गढ़वाली भाई हैं जो स्पेस स्टेशन में सब्जियाँ उगाने के सपने को लगभग अंजाम दे चुके हैं। तो धान अब हवा में उगेगा । इरादा हो तो सब संभव है ।
Thursday at 10:31pm · LikeUnlike.Manoj Aswal आप इन्सान हो , चाहो तो हवा मेँ धान उगा लो या धरती से भगवान को उखाड़ दो , चेतना का स्तर तय करता है क्रान्ति या समर्पण । नियति को मंजूर है सब , तू हाँ तो कर ।

Thursday at 11:23pm · LikeUnlike.Ish Mishra kaun kahata hai aakash men surakh nahi ho sakta,
ek patthar to tabiyat se uchhalo yaron. -- dushyant kumar
Yesterday at 6:13am · LikeUnlike.Vishnu Rajgadia Bahut khoob
22 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Akbar Rizvi विशालजी आपने जो बात कही है, उसके बाद दिल तो नहीं करता कि आपसे संवाद करूं। लेकिन हमारी विचारधारा ऐसी नहीं है। आप के लिए भगवान और अल्लाह में भेद होगा। मेरे लिए दोनों बराबर है और स्थिति ये कि कोउ नृप हो हमे का हानि। फिर भी आपको बता दूं कि जब में हिन्दी में बोलता हूं तो भगवान कहता हूं, संस्कृत में यही ईश्वर बन जाता है। अरबी में अल्लाह तो फारसी में खुदा होता है। अंग्रेजी में गॉड कहते हैं और भी कई भाषाएं हैं और ईश्वर के कई नाम भी। दुख तो ये है कि कविता का भाव छोड़कर यहां कुछ बेमतलब की टिप्पणियां ज्यादा हैं। लिहाजा मैं शर्मिंदा हूं।
21 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Swami Chidambaranand हरि ॐ जयदीपजी !
जब कुछ गलत होने लगता है तो बड़ी ज़ल्दी भगवान को दोष देने लगते हैं हम ,सालों-साल से सब अच्छा है तो भगवान कि कृपा नहीं कुछ खराब हो जाये तो भगवान को क्या हो गया है ?
14 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Swami Chidambaranand विक्रमजी ,आप कौन सी दुनियां में रह रहे हो ?अमरीका ने हजारों वैज्ञानिकों से पूछा था भगवान के बारे में आपलोगों का क्या कहना है ?आप आश्चर्य करेंगे ९९%वैज्ञानिकों ने उसकी सत्ता के बारे में स्वीकृति दी थी और ये बात लगभग सभी समाचार पत्रों में छपी... थी .आप कौन से वैज्ञानिक को जानते हो जो अपनी सफलता पर ऊपरवाले का शुक्रिया ना करता हो ?पता नहीं आप कहाँ रहते हैं पूरी दुनियां में भगवान को माननेवालों की भीड़ बढ रही है आप कह रहे हो कि संख्या कम हो रही है .मुंबई में परसों ही गणपति विसर्जन हुआ है ज़रा टेलिविज़न और समाचार पत्रों में भीड़ को देखिये तो शायद आपका भ्रम दूर हो जाये .See More
14 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Swami Chidambaranand मिश्राजी !आपने लिखा है सारे स्वामी......मैं आप से पूछता हूँ कि आप कितने स्वामियों से मिले हैं कि आपने सबको एक ही कटघरे में खड़ा कर दिया .आप वो लोग हो जो टी.वी.को सारे ज्ञान का साधन मानकर आँख बंद कर भरोसा कर लेते हो कि हाँ ऐसे ही सब होंगे ?मेरे भाई टी.वी. से भी बाहर दुनिया है कभी निकलकर देखो तो सही .कुछ लड़कों ने अपने बाप को मार डाला हो तो इसका मतलब ये तो नहीं सब लड़के ऐसे ही होते हैं .ये महान भारत के महात्मा ही थे जिनके आगे दुनियां नतमस्तक हुई .स्वामी विवेकानंद महात्मा ही थे जिन्होंने विदेश में जाकर सबसे पहले इस देश का नाम रोशन किया .
14 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Vikram Negi ‎???
14 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Ish Mishra Main bahut swamion se mila hun, ab aap se mukhatib hun, main aapse mukhatib hun ek swami mka nam bataiye jo kameena mna ho, ye sare parjivi , kamchor hain. vivekanad ne kya kiya, rajneeti ki bat karne se dar se bachta raha. vivekanabd ne va...han ja kar vahi kaha jo uske angrej swami kahte the. Gandhi was not a swami. vigyan ke vidyarthi sabse adhik avaigyanik hote hain, ve vigyan ko ek skill ke taur par dhjaran karte hain, dhongi hote hain sabhi swami, sabhi ka matlab sabhi. main sare bhawanon aur unke dalalon koo chunauti deta hun mera jo bigadna ho bidgad ke dikha den. jo khud bhram me fanse hain vo kisi ko kya dishadarshan denge. sare swami fraud hain, aap ,samet. bahas karni ho to kar lo. tumne abtak kya kam kiye hain batao? jinko apne asttitva ka auchitya nahin milta vo swami ho jate hain aur dusaron ko bevakuf banate hain, lekin kath ki handi kitne din chalegi? apne andar jhanko mere sawalon ka jawab khud mil jayega ki tum fraud ho ki nahinSee More
9 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Ish Mishra let me tell u again all the self claimed agents, swamis and babas all are frauds, i challenge them for open debate. they have been fooling the countriy for ages. it must bstop now, all the swamis need to be exposed including you.
9 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Ish Mishra Bhagwan bhi aajkal apne bhaktyon ke chakkar me fraud ho gaya hai, main usko bhi challengre karta hun mera jo bigad sakta hai bigad le.
9 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading....Swami Chidambaranand मिश्राजी !आप तो बुरा मान गए ,जो मैंने पूछा उसका ज़वाब आपने दिया नहीं आपने तो चेलेंज किया है ----मैं फिर आप से कहता हूँ कि पहले आप संतों से मिलिए ,संत किसे कहते हैं इसे समझिये .यूं तो रावण भी संत का वेष बनाकर सीता हरण के लिए गया था तो क्या उ...से आदर्श मानकर संतों को कटघरे में खड़ा करेंगे ...हो सकता है जिन्हें आप संत समझने की भूल कर के अपना निर्णय सुना रहे हों वे रावण के ही अनुयायी हों ,कुछ भी हो कोई भी समझदार व्यक्ति इस बात से सहमत नहीं हो सकता कि सब एक जैसे हैं .आपने मुझे भी उसमे शामिल किया है आपकी यही बात आपको कमजोर बनाती है आप हमसे मिले तक नहीं और आपने मेरे बारे में भी अपनी धारणा बना ली कि मैं भी वैसा ही हूँ ,हो सकता कि मैं अच्छा होऊं ,हो सकता है कि मैं आपकी सोच से भी ज्यादा बुरा होऊं .जहां तक बहस की बात है तो वो बिना मिले तो होगी नहीं मैं तो कह ही रहा हूँ कि पहले मिलिए .See More
7 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Vikram Negi भगवान तो कभी थे ही नहीँ तो उखड़ने और जमने का सवाल ही नहीँ उठता और जो भगवान हैँ कहते हैँ उन लोगोँ के मन भगवान जमा हुआ है और वो भी धीरे धीरे उखड़ जायेगा इसलिए स्वामी जी आडम्बरोँ को छोड़ो और केवल एक ही चीज स्वीकार करो

"मन ही देवता है और मन ही राक...्षस"!See More
7 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Swami Chidambaranand मिश्राजी !आप जैसी भाषा का प्रयोग करते हैं हमने वो सीखी नहीं है इसका मुझे अफ़सोस नहीं है .यदि आपको स्वामी विवेकानंद में भी दोष दिखाई देता है तब तो बहुत मुश्किल है .आपकी बुद्धि पर तरस आता है कि घोर नास्तिक विचारधारा वाले कम्युनिष्ट भी विवेकानंद का विरोध नहीं कर पाते .आप कहते है कि विवेकानंद ने क्या किया कभी रामकृष्ण मिशन गए हैं भारत का शायद ही कोई हिस्सा हो जहा उन्होंने हॉस्पिटल की व्यवस्था ना की हो .३२ वर्ष की उम्र में उन्होंने वो किया जो आप १०० जन्म लेकर भी नहीं कर सकते .
7 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Swami Chidambaranand हमारे शाश्त्रों में भगवान के बारे में ऐसा कई बार आता है कि जैसी जिसकी भावना होती है वो उसे वैसा ही दिखता है अब एक नयी बात भी जोड़नी चाहिए जो फ्राड हैं शायद उन्हें भगवान भी वैसा ही दिखता है .
7 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Swami Chidambaranand बात ये है कि ये काठ की हांडी होती तो कब की जल गयी होती ,विज्ञानं भी ये मानता है कि दुनिया का सबसे पुराना ग्रन्थ ऋग्वेद है तो भाई तब से लेकर अब तक तो जली नहीं ,लोगों ने खूब आग लगायी फिर भी नहीं जली ,आप भी सपना देख लो पर हज़ार मुश्किलें आने के बाद भी सच्चाई ऐसी ही रहने वाली है .आपको अपना चश्मा उतारने की ज़रुरत है तब हक़ीकत नज़र आयेगी भाई .
7 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Ish Mishra bachpan se ab tak jitne swamion se mila hun vo ya to farud nikle ya agyani. aapne vivekanand ko padha hai? maine padha hai. ve logon ki bat karte the lekin logon se darte the, samajvad ki bat karte the lekin use paribhashit kiye bagair. tho...s samsyaon ko aadhyatmikta ke makadjal men uljha dete the jaisa ki sabhi "swami" karte hain. vivekanad bahu hi prakhar budhi ke vyakti the lekin unki vudhi ki prakharta adhyatmikta ke chakkar men barbad ho gayi. kitne asptal aur school unke nam se chalte hain ye alag bat hai. kabhi miliye to vivekanand par bahas ho sakti hai. aap bataiye thos roop se unhone adhyatmik tark-kutark ke alawa kya thos kam kiya hai? rajnaitik sawalon se bhagte the usme khatra tha aupniveshik shahko dvra daman ka. vo khatra bhagat singh ne uthaya.
jahan tak rigveda ka sawal hai, to sabse purana granth hai ki nahi lekin bahut purana hai, aur tab tal hamare ardh-khanabadosh chrwahe poorvajon ko likhn e ka gyan nahi tha, isi liye ise shruti gyan kaha jata hai, maukhik parampara se pidhi-dar pidhi age badhta raha.aapne padha hai? maine hindi anuvad padha hai aur usme us samay ki jeevan ki avashyakton aur ach ch he somras ki kamnayen ki gayi hain. brahma-vishnu -mahesh ya anya kisi devi-devta ka koi zikrs nsahi hai. dharma ki utpatti bhay se hoti hai. hamare rigvaidic poorvajon ke devta prakritik shaktian thi: ARUN_VARUN- INDRA - agni. inshan apni jarrorton ke hisab se apne dharma aur devi-devta ka avishkar karta hai. ram-krishna to kautilya ke jamane men bhi bhagwan nahi the. vah krisna aur kansha dono ko DANAVON ki shreni men rakhta hai.See More
40 minutes ago · LikeUnlike · 1 personVikram Negi likes this..Swami Chidambaranand आपने लिखा कि आप बहुत से संतों से मिले हैं पर मनुष्याणां सहस्रेषु कश्चिद्यतति सिद्धये यततामपि सिद्धानां कश्चिन्मां वेत्ति तत्वतः के अनुसार हजारों मनुष्यों में कोई एक संत होने के निकल पाता है ,उन हजारों में कोई एक हो पाता है जो हुए हैं उन हजारों में कोई एक तत्त्ववेत्ता होता है इस स्तिथि में आप बहुत से संतों से कहाँ से मिल लिए .संतों के विषय में अपने ज्ञान को ज्ञान को ठीक कीजिये बाद में बहस कीजिये .
15 minutes ago · LikeUnlike.Ish Mishra jahan tak ram aur ravan ka sawal hai to ye ek mahakavya ke patra hain itihas ke nahi. ek afriki kahavat hai: "as long as the lions dont have their own historians, history shall go on eulogiging the hunter" Valmiki aur tulsidas "hunter" ke i...tihaskar hain, lekin unki hi rachnaon ko vastinishtha bhav se padhen to payenge ki ravan ka chatra naitikta ke mapdanda par ram ke chasritra se bahut shreshtha hai. lekin iske liye andhabhakti ka chashma utar kar chijon ko tarkon aur tathyon ke adahar par samjhna padega. ram ka bap ek aiyash kishm ka raja tha, budhape men jawan ladki se shadi karne ke liye usase bhavishya men uski kisi bhi mang ko pura arne ka vada kar deta hai aur usi ke tahat raj-kaj ke antarsangharshon aur mahlon ki antahkalah ke chalte vah ram ko 14 sal ke vanvas ke liye bhej deta hai.
ravan ek gyani (jise ram khud swekar karte hain jab laxman ko mrityushaiya par pade ravan ke pas gyan seekhne bhejte hain) purush aur shaktishali evam kushal shashak tha, log khushal aur sampanna the tabhi to uski lanka sone ki llanka thi. Ram ek aisi parampara ka pratinidhi tha jahan purush MAL ki tarah aurat ko jeet kar hasil karte the apne bhoga-vilas ke liye. bataiye dhanush todne aur machhali ki aankh bhedne aur stri-purush sanmbandhon me kya rishta? ravan ek aisi paramppara ka pratinidhi tha jisme aurat bhi 'propose' kar sakti thi. ravan ki bahan jab ram ko proppose karti hai to use yah kahne ki bajay ki ve use paqsand nahin karte dono bhai football ki tarah ek doosaree ke bich shunt karte rahe aur uski nak kan kat liye. jahan tak sawal is bat ka hai ki use malum tha ki dono shadishuda hain to rAM KE KHANDAN MEN BAHUT SI BIBIAN RAKHNA ANJANI BAT NAHI THI. uske bap ki hi 3 bibian thin usi ke chakkar men vo jangal men bhatak raha tha. ravan ne apni maya gyan ka ishtemal karke uski bibi ka apharan kar liya. jara sochiye aapki bahan ko koi kuchh kah bhi de to aap par kya beetegi? usne lejakr sita ko FIVE STAR guest house men rakha koi jor-jabardasti nahi ki. ram ravan se ladne ke sena jutane ke chakkar me kayaron ki tarah chhip kar bali ko mar dala jisne uska kuchh nahin bigada tha. Gaddar hamesha hote hain, vibhishan nam ke gaddar ki madad se ravan ko marne ke bad sita se kahta hai ye ladai usne sita ke liye nahin balki khandan ki nak ke liye lda hai. use tabhi sath le jayega jab vo agni pareeksha degi? ram khud jangal men kya kya mangal karta raha kaun janta hai use agni pareelksha ki jaroorat nahi thi aur ant men kisi bahane garbhvati halat men use lat markar nikal deta hai. tmam varnashrami bakvas karte rhate hain karm ke adhar par samjik varga vibhajan ki, sambuk namak sudra tapsya kar raha tha ki varnashrami brahmand hil gaya aur raja ram apne sevakon-laxma, hanuman... ko bhejne ki bajaye khud use marne nikal pade.
jo tulsidas aur valmiki ne likha hai uske adhar par bhi ravan ka charitra varnashramvadi, vistarvadi aur narivirodhi ram ke charitra se bahut shreshtha hai. aisa samjhne ke liye dharmandhata ka chashma utarna padehga, lekin tab swamigiri nahi chalegi!
Ish Mishra kaise pata chale kaun sant hai, hardwar ke sabhi swaqmi balk swmion ka shoshan/bhog karte hain, vo lakhon men ek swami kahaqn milega, usmen samay nasht karne ki bajaye bhautik duniya ko behtar banay jaye tab swamion-sanyasion ke spiritual fraud ki jaroorat nahi rahehgi. jay swami chinmayanand. fraud/parasite swmaion ka vinash ho.
2 minutes ago · LikeUnlike.Ish Mishra swami ji kuchh sikhna chahte hon to bahas jarti rakha jaye aur aghar kup-manduk bane rahna chahte hain to bahas yahin khatm. bye bye swamiji jaiye dharmbhiru logon ki aastha par rotian senkiye, bahas sirf tarqon tathyon par honi chahiye laffaji se nahin. bye.

socialism 1

Arun Prakash ji, the present phase of the latest stage of capitalism -- the finace capital is, hopefully, the last stage of capitalism ( Let us hope so and work towards ending it). I am quite optimistic and hopeful that the as the inadvertent consequence of capitalist development in the field of communication, a new and advanced form of a new Internationalism -- the socialist internationalism is on its way to destroy the ideological basis of capitalism.

@Com Raufparas, the ruling class ideas are the ruling ideas also. The imperialist capital owns the ideological apparatuses and captive intellectuals. Moreover ppl relying on the Soviet Union, that has been on the capitalist path for quite some time in its hegemonic rivalary with capitalist imperialism, as the harbinger of wporld revolution developed defeatist attitude and many of them became ex-Marxists. randhir Singh has ellaborated the reasons of Soviet Union's disintegration in his voluminous book - The Cris of Socialism. It was a setback to the march to socialism, but a temporary setback, that happens. New ideas are emerging and we should continuously counter capitalist propaganda with in or means. The bubble of triumphant declarations of World of the end of history burst wiuthin a decade. Capitalism has become moribund, is in ICU on artificial oxygen, if we work incessantly it would certainly end, may be if not in our life time, in the life time of our grand children, lets continuously bombard the bastille

marxism

eversince those "10 days" that "shook the world" the oplogetic-intellectuals of capitalism have been theorising the "totalitarianism" in Marxism (Karl Popper & Co.) and in 1960s they declared the "end of the ideology" (Daniel Bell). What en...ded was the Race as an ideology created/devised in defence of the slavery by the intellectiual ancestors of the Bell. With the disintegration of Soviet Union that by that time had become hegemonic rival of the capitalist imperialism, the social imperialism, the succesors of Daniel Bell declared the "end of History" (Fukuyama). History never ends, nor repeats itself, it only echoes, what ends is the outdated historical epoch implying the iminent end of capitalism as an historical epoch. and till no other advanced theoretical alternative is advanced, the only next epochal alternative is that of socialism, as worked out by Karl marx and F Engels in the 19th Century, when capitalism was moving towards its last stage, i.e. by Marxism that will remain ideologically relevant even after the demise capitalism.

Che ko lal salam

Ruling classes afraid of the ideas kill the individuals makiing their ideas more effective but nevertheless depriving the movement of great leadrship. Fascists under Musslini afraid of ideas wanted to stop Gramsci's brain functiong by put...ting him behibd the bars, they could not the brain functioning but they shortened his life by depriving him of basic medines and that proved to nemisis of fascism, CIA killed Che and Che's ideas spread globally beyond the twin continents of Americans. It has been ongoing process followed by expansion of revolutionary ideas and conciousness. Indira Gandhi killed Charu Mazumdar afraid of the ideas of revolution, but the legacies of Naxalbari upsurge have engulfed the entire nation and as Marx and Engels wrote in the Communist Manifesto the spectre of communism was haunting bthe Europe, today the spectre of Naxalism is haunting all the ruling class parties and leaders playing the subservient role to the imperialist. Chidambaram got Azad, the spokesperson and one of the ideologues of CPI(Maoist), Maoism's intellectual and popular support base has expanded. Therre is a poem by revolutionary panjabi poet, Pash; "MAIN TO GHAS HUN FIR UG AAUNGA TUMHARE SAB KIYE-DHARE PAR". ( I am grass will reappear, whatever you do) Com. Pash ko lal Salam; Com Che ko Lal Salam

On God --krishna

Religion, according to Einstein to begin with , is a product of fear. All the societies createw their own , idioms , phrases, rituals and Gods and godesses according to their historical needs. That is why the nature, number, functions and conceptions of Gods and Godesses have been historically changing. In pre-modern days, the function of God was to help the poor and distressed, in modern times, with the advent of Social Darwinism, the function of the God has changed. Now God helps those who help themselves -- the rich and dominant classes. Believers are so insecure and illogical that their sentiments are like wax, get hurt on anything critical of gods and prophets.

Trimurti -- Brahma-Vishnu-Mahesh -- or the plethora of 33 crores gods/godesees find no place in the Rig-vedic scheme of religion. Arun(the sun), Varun (the wind), Indra, Agni -- the natural forces beypond the cpomprehension of our ancient ancestors, were regarded as gods -- the supernatural powers. With passage of time few more natural forces and the Soma (the marijuana -- bhang plant) got the status of Gods. According to the changing charecter of ruling classes and perpetuation of brhmanical order of varnashrama system, that attained climax during the early centuries of the christian era culminating into the lawbook -- Manusmriti, the number of dieties went on increasing.

Kautilya, synonymously known by the name of Chanakya (or the Vishnugupta), the Prime Minister of the first Mauryan king Chandragupta, in his Arthashatra -- a masterpiece on the political theory; statecraft; political economy; diplomacy and warfares -- while advising the Vijigishu (the would be conquerer king) to worship Gods and demons before setting off on a war campaign brackets, interstingly together Krishna alongwith Kansa in the category of demons ( RP Kangle, The Kautiliya Arthashastra, Vol. II[English translation by Kangle]). Maeghanstenese, the conrtemporary greek trveller, writes about Krishna as a locan legendary hero of the Sursen region. This implies the krishmna was not part of the galaxy of the dieties till atleast Mauryan times. Krishna began to be transformed into a diety with the interpolation of Bhagawatgita section in the original Mahabharata and gained momentum with Bhakti movement ' initially in Bengal with the Chaitanya Mahaprabhu.

Therefore it is my request to Bansal ji and his fanatic critics to kindly demystify the charecters of epics and Puranas/mythologies to get the contents of the social history. And objections to freedom of expression is a dangerous ooman for the forward nmarch of democracy. criticism should have respect for differences as society consists of not many but many kinds of men and women.

On the Martyrdom of Com. Azad

Civility introduces duality
One wants to look, what one is not.
thus the eternal contradiction of civilization
the contradiction of the essence and the appearance.

Civility is divine
The chosen few got the right to appropriate
appropriate the wealth of nature
trough other peoples' labor
the civil not only has rights
but duties too
the duty to civilize the wretched of the earth.

Civilizing needs leisure
and the status of gainfully unemployed
It needed masters to civilize slaves
Bramins to Shudras
feudal lords to serfs
capitalists to the proletariat
the colonizers to the colonized
in respective epochs
and the man to woman in is all the epochs.

Civility is not just economics but philosophy too
as both are twins born out of the womb of civility
Its history boasts of not only Greek and Roman glories
on the foundations of the glorious s labor
but also of Aristotle and Cicero
Ancient glories are not the monopoly of the west
We too have a glorious past
the golden ages on the foundation of the Shudra labor
Shudras are divine creature
blessed with the qualities of serving and suffering
We too had great philosophers
the Valmikis and Manus

It needed  serfdom and Charlemagnes
It needed wage slavery and Adam Smiths
It needed Daniel Bells and Fukoyamas.
It also needed Julius Ceasers; Clive Lloyds; Hitlers and Mussolinies;l Bushes
and Blairs.

Civilization is man-made and not the woman-made, so is patriarchal;
Women are not part of it but just conditions.
They are not partners of the men but only the objects of their lust;
Not the creator of creativity but only means to produce future civilizers.

Lord Clive came to India to civilize us;
The enlightened sections of our ruling classes joined his civilizing mission.
The challenge to mission by the unenlightened sections – the peasants and the
soldiers -- moved by their affinity to nativity, was crushed.
Was crushed by the lovers of the new mission – the Scindhias; the Peshwas; the
Nizams; the Sikhs ……..

Spartacus – a slave—waged a war against the civilization in the Roman Republic.
It shook the foundations of the civilization but was crushed buy the forces of
civilization.
The slain rebels were scalped with the trees from Rome to Capua to warn the
future enemies of the civilization.
The colonial civilizers followed the footstep of their Roman predecessors.

The mission of Lord Clive is complete: India is mostly civilized.
There is no more any need of Lord Clive’s physical presence.
All the Sirajuddaulas also have turned into Mir Zafars --
The Raos and Gaudas; Bajpayees and Manmohans; Budhas and Navins, in nutshell
Montek Singh Sahluwallia and Montek Singh Ahluwallia..

Let us join the enemies of civilization on global scale;
Let’s promote Dalit assertion and scholarship; feminist assertion and
scholarship and support peoples revolutionary movements world over.

Let’s join the Spartacuses and vow to destroy this civilization.
Let’s join the rebellions of Kalinganagar; Jagatsinghpur, Niyamgiri,
Narayanpatna, Dantewada, Kaushambi……

Com. Azad was a communist with a vision to end this civilzation ;
establish a new one free from subjugation and exploitation;
a civilization with the impossibility of expolitation of man by man;
of realization of creative potentialities by all;
in nutshell a civilization of human emancipation.

As a tarined technocrate, he could have joined a corporate
and become Chidambaram;
He could have joined world bank and become Manmohan;
He could have joined CPI(M) and become Budhadeb;
but he made a well thought decision to become AZAD
and lay his life in the cause of humanity and democracy.

Com Azad! LAL SALAM!!
you have joined the galaxy of the long list of martyres
whoi laid their lives for the cause of the humanity and hence the truth
you are the latest in the sequence of Spartacus to Gallelio;
Brsa Munda to Udham Singh; Bhagat Singh, Christopher Cordwell to Che Guera;
Charu Mazumdar to Pash, Maan and AZAD.
LALA SALAM Com AZAD.

The posterity -- the people: the tribals and dalits; the workers and the
peasants shall fulfill the unfinished task of revolution. ....
And that is the law of the dialectics of nature;
Revolution in inevitable......

The flame that was sparked off at Naxalbari over 4 decades ago;
would and must engulf the entire nation;
Bearers of this torch of revolutionary flame are pervading the world
from Dantewada to Narayan Patna; from nandigram to Lalgarh;
from Kalinaganagar to Kaushambi.........

The enemy is desperate and united;
they own the Shastras( weapons) and the Shaastras) on the peoples' cost;
unable to kill the ideas they have begun to kill the individuals and massacre
the people who bear the ideas:
whether it is Niyogi or Azad; peasnats of nandsigram, Nrayanpatna or
kalinganagar.....

The killers are worried and bewildered;
people have stopped fearing the death;
they are ready to die but not retreat, kalinganagar showed the way
Nandigram followed

The flow of the radical streams joining into a river must and shall get
momentum;
And the oaring flow of this river shall be unstoppable by the CRPF type straws
of Chidambarams and Manmohans.
(JO DARIYA JHOOM KE UTTHA HAI, TNKON SE NA ROKA JAYEGA -- Faiz).

It is time to wake up to save the country from complete neo-colonization,
More and more Rajkumars and Dahals would and shall reject the lavishly cariiers
and would become Prachandas annd Azads;
more and more baburam Bhattaris and Chandrashekhars would decline the high
profile academic carriers and become organic intellectuals of the poor at war
with the rich.